Honey Cup
Fig: Honey Cup bag structure. Includes DPC Recovery, which involves placing the extra piece in a specific spot compatible with a DPC setup.
Honey Cup is not 100% build cover on Bag 1. Use a fallback setup such as 8L PC Openers or 1st PC when Honey Cup isn't buildable.
Gamushiro & friends 8L Bag 1 setups marked with ⭐ have 100% build cover and 100% recovery rate into 100% DPC setups.
You must learn (build + recovery, not all solves) a fallback setup in order to always be able to loop using Honey Cup.
From Bag 2 onwards Honey Cup setups marked with ⭐ have 100% combined build cover and 100% recovery rate into 100% DPC setups.
You must learn these setups in order to always be able to loop using Honey Cup.
Honey Cup Bag 1
| Residue | Hold | Build% | Setup | Combined Build% |
+ | Fallback Setup |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
⭐ Honey Cup
|
J | 53.33% |
⭐ Honey Cup
|
100.00% | + |
⭐ Kisaragi
|
Honey Cup: 53.33% with mirror (33.33% without mirror).
Fallback Bag 1 Setup
Due to shared Bag 2 forms, Kisaragi Stacking is recommended to use as fallback setup for Honey Cup.
You must learn (build + recovery, not all solves) Bag 2 setups marked with ⭐ for your fallback Bag 1 setups in order to be able to loop using that combination.
| Gamushiro & friends 8L | Bag 2 Setup | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bag 2 Setup → | Honey Cup | Honey Cup Compromise |
Kisaragi Stacking |
Maple Syrup |
|
| PC% → | 96.87% | 70.63% | 90.40% | 95.91% | |
| Bag 2 Setup → | |||||
| TSS+Tet% → | 0.00% | 9.52% | 22.10% | 0.00% | |
| TSD% → | 68.89% | 18.10% | 36.83% | 61.03% | |
| TSS+% → | 68.89% | 42.86% | 67.18% | 61.03% | |
| Tet+% → | 0.00% | 9.52% | 22.10% | 0.00% | |
| Bad% → | 31.11% | 57.14% | 32.82% | 38.97% | |
| # Minimals → | 14 | 5 | 12 | 18 | |
| Bag 1 Setup (# Bag 2 Setups) |
Col | Bag 2 Setup | |||
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Honey Cup (2)
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4-5 |
⭐ Honey Cup
|
⭐ Compromise
|
- |
Maple
|
| + | + this | ||||
|
⭐ Kisaragi (2)
|
4-5 |
⭐ Honey Cup
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- |
⭐ Kisaragi
|
- |
Honey Cup Bag 2
+ J
| Residue | Build% (No TST) |
Cum. Cov% |
PC% | Rec% | TSS+ Tet% | TSD% | TSS+% | Tet% | Bad% | Setups | Recovery | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 96.67% (100.00%) |
96.67% (100.00%) |
96.87% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 68.89% | 68.89% | 0.00% | 31.11% |
⭐ O<J Honey Cup
|
⭐ J<LO Honey Cup
|
⭐ L<O,J<I Honey Cup
|
S Recovery DPC (vert)
T Recovery DPC (gap1)
|
|
| - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
O<L Honey Cup
|
O<J Honey Cup
|
O<J,S<L Honey Cup
|
|
| 66.67% | 100.00% | 70.63% | 100.00% | 9.52% | 18.10% | 42.86% | 9.52% | 57.14% |
⭐ J<O Compromise
|
S Recovery DPC (vert)
|
|||
| 43.33% (74.60%) |
- | 95.91% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 61.03% | 61.03% | 0.00% | 38.97% |
O<J,I<L Maple Syrup
|
O Recovery DPC (wall)
S Recovery DPC (vert)
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Most of the time you will be placing J on top of ILS. These two builds alone bring you to 95.00% TST (and 100.00% build rate if forgo TST):
If Z hasn't been placed yet, J can be spun in after L has been placed. This doesn't require 180:
Fig: Honey Cup J kick.
This alternate placement increases TST cover to 96.67%:
When TST isn't possible, this TSD into skim can sometimes be built. Dependency is J<O,S<L. Adding this build gives 98.81% TSD+ cover:
This still scores more on average than the Honey Cup Compromise setup.
While the other three Honey Cup builds are never necessary, they are good to know for better KPP.
The same applies to placing J pieces out of order.
Bad setups with higher PC% than Honey Cup Compromise exist. They're not listed due to unnecessary complexity increase and also because the best such setup is only 84.33%.
Honey Cup Solve
⭐ Honey Cup Solve
| PC% | Unique Solves | Minimal Solves | Recovery Minimals |
Recovery DPC | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 96.87% | 18 unique ↗️ | 14 minimal ↗️ | 2 (5) |
S-vert
|
T-gap1
|
| PC% | Rec% | TSS+ Tet% | TSD% | TSS+% | Tet% | Bad% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 96.87% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 68.89% | 68.89% | 0.00% | 31.11% |
| O | OS | OST | T | TO | No S | |
| 53.73% | 91.83% | 95.75% | 15.56% | 62.18% | 63.29% | |
⭐🩹 Honey Cup Complementary Recovery (2)
To be used in combination with Minimals. These recoveries cover all the fail queues.
⭐ Honey Cup Minimals (14)
Space divisions make finding solves simpler:
When T comes in the middle of the bag, it's sometimes possible to get the spin after skimming.
Skim in a way that creates a hole ready for the O piece to be placed last on top of the T slot.
Hold O until T has been placed:
When T comes too late, you'll often need to skim the top rows first.
Skim in a way that blocks off the T slot, ready for T to be placed last once the top rows have been resolved.
Here O cannot be used to resolve the space above the T slot because it would fall through.
Hold O or place O on the other side instead:
If you can hold L after executing the TST, you can still choose between Honey Cup and Maple Syrup:
The board hold L is 99.37%.
(🩹 Honey Cup Full Recovery (5))
| Rec% | Recovery Minimals |
Recovery DPC | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 100.00% | 5 |
O-wall
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S-vert
|
T-wall
|
T-gap1
|
|
A full recovery route with 5 minimals exists.
While you never need most of these in practice, they're good to know if you make a mistake of to get a better save.
⭐ Honey Cup Compromise Solve
| PC% | Unique Solves | Minimal Solves | Recovery Minimals |
Recovery DPC |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 70.63% | 9 unique ↗️ | 5 minimal ↗️ | 1 (1) |
S-vert
|
| PC% | Rec% | TSS+ Tet% | TSD% | TSS+% | Tet% | Bad% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 70.63% | 100.00% | 9.52% | 18.10% | 42.86% | 9.52% | 57.14% |
| O | OS | OST | T | TO | No S | |
| 12.06% | 67.78% | 70.63% | 13.33% | 19.52% | 19.52% | |
⭐🩹 Honey Cup Compromise Full Recovery (1)
| Rec% | Recovery Minimals |
Recovery DPC | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 100.00% | 1 |
S-vert
|
|
These recovery minimals have combined 100% build cover.
⭐ Honey Cup Compromise Minimals (5)
Maple Syrup Solve
| PC% | Unique Solves | Minimal Solves | Recovery Minimals |
Recovery DPC | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 95.91% | 34 unique ↗️ | 18 minimal ↗️ | 3 (5) |
O-wall
|
S-vert
|
| PC% | Rec% | TSS+ Tet% | TSD% | TSS+% | Tet% | Bad% |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 95.91% | 100.00% | 0.00% | 61.03% | 61.03% | 0.00% | 38.97% |
| O | OS | OST | T | TO | No S | |
| 46.90% | 87.18% | 91.83% | 22.82% | 60.40% | 78.89% | |
🩹 Maple Syrup Complementary Recovery (3)
To be used in combination with Minimals. These recoveries cover all the fail queues.
Maple Syrup Minimals (18)
Maple Syrup Extra (1)
Space divisions make finding solves simpler:
(🩹 Maple Syrup Full Recovery (5))
| Rec% | Recovery Minimals |
Recovery DPC | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 100.00% | 5 |
O-wall
|
S-vert
|
A full recovery route with 5 minimals exists.
While you never the extra two in practice, they're good to know if you make a mistake.
Maple Syrup can sometimes be upgraded to Pancake Stacking potential better solve/better save if you can spot a good queue:
Changelog
- 2023-03-10
- Added Bag 2 setups (1):
- Maple Syrup optional setup
- 2023-03-06
- Created Honey Cup page
- Added Bag 2 setups (2):
- Honey Cup minimal setup
- Honey Cup Compromise minimal setup