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8L PC Openers

8l-bag-structure.png
Fig: 8L PC Opener bag structure. Includes DPC Recovery, which involves placing the extra piece in a specific spot compatible with a DPC setup.

8L PC Opener is an 8-line PC opener setup. It can also be built after completing a loop using any setup that ends after 14L/28L such as DPC or 7th PC.
8L PC Opener can be followed up by DPC or 3rd PC.

Build rates are including mirror.

Pages in this section

Overview pages

Overview page Illustration
  • Gamushiro & friends 8L
    Extensive comparison of 8L C-spin setups. Do check.
  • Other 8L PC Openers
    Exists because I didn't want navi link to be grey.

Minimal Setups

8L PC Opener setups marked with ⭐ have 100% combined build cover and 100% recovery rate into 100% DPC setups.
You must learn (build + recovery, not all solves) one of these setups in order to always be able to loop using 8L PC Openers.

Alternatively, 8L PC Opener setups marked with 🇦️ and 🅱 have 100% combined build cover and 100% recovery rate into 100% DPC setups.
You can learn (build + recovery, not all solves) one of these combinations (🇦+🅱) in order to always be able to loop using 8L PC Openers.

Gamushiro & friends 8L

Minimal 8L Hold Build% PC% Setup + Combine With
any of these
⭐ Gamushiro L 100.00% 99.29%/
96.94%/
96.71%/
93.81%
(94.40%)
⭐ Gamushiro
⭐ MS2 L 100.00% 99.29%/
98.57%/
96.90%
(98.57%)
(94.92%)
(91.67%)
⭐ MS2
⭐ Kisaragi - 100.00% 96.87%/
90.40%
⭐ Kisaragi
⭐
🇦 Satsuki
(+ any of 🅱)
-
(J)
100.00%
(98.33%)
(97.78%)
95.91%
🇦 Satsuki
+
🅱 PC-Spin(Okey)
🅱 Tsar Cannon
🅱 MS3/Maple
🅱 Crepe
⭐
🅱 PC-Spin(Okey)
(+ any of 🇦)
-
(I)
100.00%
(100.00%)
96.94%/
95.91%
🅱 PC-Spin(Okey)
+
🇦 Satsuki
🇦 Riif v3
⭐
🅱 Tsar Cannon
(+ any of 🇦)
-
(O)
100.00%
(100.00%)
98.69%
(99.29%)
🅱 Tsar Cannon
+
🇦 Satsuki
🇦 Riif v3
⭐*
🇦 Riif v3
(Tandoori Chicken)

(+ any of 🅱)
-
(J)
100.00%
(98.33%)
(97.78%)
98.85%/
96.94%
(98.57%)
🇦 Riif v3
+
🅱 PC-Spin(Okey)
🅱 Tsar Cannon
🅱 MS3/Maple
🅱 Crepe
⭐
🅱 MS3/Maple
(+ any of 🇦)
-
(O)
100.00%
(100.00%)
95.91%/
(99.29%)
(98.57%)
(96.90%)
(90.40%)
🅱 MS3
+
🇦 Satsuki
🇦 Riif v3
⭐
🅱 Crepe
(+ any of 🇦)
-
(O)
100.00%
(100.00%)
100.00%
95.00%
🅱 Crepe
+
🇦 Satsuki
🇦 Riif v3

* Riif v3 7p Bag 2 is 100.00% build rate if forgo TST, only 91.67% build rate with TST. Tandoori Chicken 6p Bag 2 is 100.00% build with TST.

Other 8L setups

Minimal 8L Hold Build%
(No spin)
PC% Setup
⭐* Submarine - 90.00%*
(100.00%)
99.25%/
96.47%/
95.40%/
95.04%/
93.33%
Submarine
⭐ :-0 Stacking - 100.00% 99.01%%/
97.50%
:-0 Stacking

* Submarine Bag 1 is 100.00% build rate if forgo TSS, only 90.00% build rate with TSS.

Optional Setups

Additional setups.
Not always buildable. Use a Minimal Setup as fallback.

Gamushiro & friends 8L

Optional 8L Hold Build% PC% Setups
9% Cannon - 60.00% 96.87%
(98.57%)
(94.92%)
(90.40%)
9% Cannon
Honey Cup - 53.33% 96.87%
70.60%
(95.91%)
Honey Cup
MS1/
Syrup/
Thread
- 53.33% 96.87%
95.91%
(98.85%)
(98.57%)
(96.90%)
(91.67%)
MS1/Syrup/Thread
Kuromitsu/
New Moon
- 89.13% 96.87%
84.25%
Kuromitsu/New Moon
Kuromitsu
Stray Cannon - 90.00% 98.57%
85.28%
84.25%
(97.42%)
Kuromitsu/New Moon
Kuromitsu

Other 8L setups

Optional 8L Hold Build% PC% Setups
SDPC - 75.00% 98.45%
(99.13%)
SDPC
Last - 86.67% 100.00%/
98.02%/
97.22%/
96.98%
Last

Changelog

    2023-10-14
  • Added :-0 Stacking page
    2023-06-26
  • Added Other 8L PC Openers overview page
    2023-03-27
  • Added Kuromitsu Stacking/New Moon Cannon page
  • Added Stray Cannon page
    2023-03-24
  • Kisaragi Stacking recovery is now 100.00%
  • Last Var 1 recovery is now 100.00%
    2023-03-17
  • Added Last page
    2023-03-16
  • Added Submarine page
    2023-03-13
  • Added Crepe Stacking page
    2023-03-10
  • Added MS3 (Mountainous Stacking 3)/Maple Stacking page
  • Added MS1 (Mountainous Stacking 1)/Syrup Stacking/Thread Cannon page
    2023-03-09
  • Added Riif v3 (Riif Stacking v3)/Tandoori Chicken page
    2023-03-08
  • Added Tsar Cannon/L<ZHCF page
    2023-03-07
  • Added MS2 (Mountainous Stacking 2) page
    2023-03-06
  • Added Honey Cup page
    2023-03-05
  • Added Kisaragi Stacking page
  • Added 9% Cannon page
    2023-03-04
  • Added Gamushiro Stacking page
    2023-02-25
  • Added PC-Spin (Okey Version) page
    2023-02-24
  • Added Gamushiro & friends 8L overview page
  • Added Satsuki Stacking page
    2023-02-23
  • Completed SDPC page
    2023-02-22
  • 8L PC Openers overview page created
  • Added SDPC page

WIP in progress ⚠️

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